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From: Sergey Matveev <stargrave@stargrave•org>
To: nncp-devel@lists.cypherpunks.ru
Subject: Re: Matrix chat room about NNCP
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 17:33:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ye1nXJMaWp/X7cbL@stargrave.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h79w95uy.fsf@complete.org>

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Greetings!

*** John Goerzen [2022-01-21 14:44]:
>Matrix is a distributed global chat network, sort of like an open-source
>non-centralized Slack or a modernized IRC.

Just my two cents about Matrix:

Unfortunately literally all the time I wanted to try it, I have never
succeeded in its server building/running. Neither with Python-based, nor
with Go-based. I do not remember details, but all of that was very
complicated, VERY resource hungry (Python-based implementations) and my
patience ended before I could finish all that installation. If I can not
run my own federated server instance -- no way I will use messaging solution.

Also when I looked at available clients, there were no console/TUI/CLI
based with OLM-encryption support. So I just did not see why I would
bother with Matrix at all -- it just lacked (lacks?) usable server and
client implementations. I remember how easy it was to setup XMPP-server
with Prosody.im. I know how easily you can run IRC-server with
feature-rich https://ergo.chat/ or with my minimalistic
http://www.git.cypherpunks.ru/?p=goircd.git;a=summary. But when I tried
Matrix servers/clients half a dozen times -- there were not any close to
all that simplicity.

I do not want to say that Matrix is bad (as with TLS :-)). Just my
personal experience was awful. I have not looked at its web-based
clients -- I would not use that anyway, but probably they are ok,
in comparison to similar kind of software. Possibly I needed to make
just single small step to finish my installations of Matrix servers,
but my patience is too limited. Mainly I just do not see any advantages
that would force me to try all of it again.

-- 
Sergey Matveev (http://www.stargrave.org/)
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-23 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-21 20:44 Matrix chat room about NNCP John Goerzen
2022-01-23 14:33 ` Sergey Matveev [this message]
2022-01-24  3:36   ` John Goerzen
2022-01-24 16:56     ` Sergey Matveev
2022-01-24 13:20 ` Jonathan Lane
2022-01-24 17:01   ` Sergey Matveev
2022-01-24 17:30   ` John Goerzen