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From: Sergey Matveev <stargrave@stargrave•org>
To: nncp-devel@lists.cypherpunks.ru
Subject: Re: ANN: Tunnelling NNCP over (ssh, sudo, tor, S3, Nextcloud, syncthing, uucp)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 13:09:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YSTFcrIdIpsv8rpd@stargrave.org> (raw)
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*** John Goerzen [2021-08-23 21:31]:
>I've worked with 1200bps amateur packet
>radio, across which you can actually run a TCP/IP stack using a protocol
>called AX.25. It works but it is painful.
You can still use that communication to chat with the person about the
meeting, where you can share you USB/CD/tape drives with terabytes of
NNCP packets :-)
>Taylor UUCP does still have half-duplex support in various protocols!
I used to use USRobotic Courier with its proprietary HST protocol that
was literally just amazing on bad channels, like nearly the whole
telephone system was in Russia in 90s :-). So those Couriers were some
kind of de-facto hardware to work with and it was worth of it! And here
I got to know that half/full-duplex meant :-). HST protocol was some
kind of half-duplex (it can reverse its "directions", but made it very
slowly) and you could not use bidirectional full-featured transmissions.
In theory NNCP can be used with it with explicit tx/rx directions, where
only small DONE-packets are sent back. Of course I doubt anyone checked
it in practice :-)
>I wished the code was more modular, because they are some of the best
>protocols I am aware of for doing file transfer over unreliable, slow,
>half-duplex links.
Just out of curiosity, do you have experience with Kermit protocol? I
read many articles saying that Kermit is better that UUCP's
protocol-g/whatever, others are saying otherwise. Just interesting. Wish
I had enough time to play with all that things :-(
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Sergey Matveev (http://www.stargrave.org/)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-24 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-20 3:42 ANN: Tunnelling NNCP over (ssh, sudo, tor, S3, Nextcloud, syncthing, uucp) John Goerzen
2021-08-20 10:52 ` Sergey Matveev
2021-08-20 12:36 ` John Goerzen
2021-08-21 18:30 ` Sergey Matveev
2021-08-24 2:31 ` John Goerzen
2021-08-24 8:35 ` Frank Doepper
2021-08-24 10:12 ` Sergey Matveev
2021-08-24 10:09 ` Sergey Matveev [this message]
2021-08-20 11:11 ` nncp-sudo Sergey Matveev
2021-08-20 12:30 ` nncp-sudo John Goerzen
2021-08-21 19:02 ` nncp-sudo Sergey Matveev
2021-08-24 2:35 ` nncp-sudo John Goerzen
2021-08-25 19:24 ` nncp-sudo Jonathan Lane
2021-08-25 20:31 ` nncp-sudo John Goerzen