Greetings! *** John Goerzen [2021-07-28 19:41]: >I am contemplating setting up an experimental public NNCP relay for people. >I would like to hear thoughts on this: would anyone be interested, what do >you think of the plan, etc. >Thoughts? Personally I have no strong opinion about all of that. I assume that all NNCP users are rather advanced users and all of them have either their own home server, or VPS or something similar. So hardly can imagine if public relay would be really useful. But that are only thoughts, no any confidence in them :-). Possibly we can use it (also) for sharing of something useful among all of few NNCP users. But... I do not know what exactly could it be. New NNCP release tarballs through multicast area? Some kind of chat/maillist/echo conference -- but there is already that maillist exists and we have to determine format of the messages and exec-commands for that tasks (for example simple recfile-formatted UTF-8 plaintext message with From/Date/Subject lines and exec-command accepting it through stdin). It is solvable and interesting task of course, but I am fear that it could lead to creation of yet another class of messaging system :-) But anyway I would be glad to help somehow with all of that. I can also provide my resources two: 100Mbps connection to home server with several hundred of gigabytes of free diskspace. >I could set up nncp-daemon and nncp-toss and use ZFS "project" quotas to >limit the size of each spool directory to something reasonable. I also use ZFS quotas at home for preventing accidental running out of disk space :-) >I wonder if there is a way to queue up an outbound packet that says >"send via one of these lists of paths and delete the others once it's >sent?") At first sight I do not like idea to remove others, possible duplicate, packets, because there are no delivery guarantees of the first one. I think it is better to have excess packets, possibly leading to more transferred traffic, but with higher probability of guaranteed delivery. >One could also route NNCP messages over UUCP. But then.... why? Unrelated remark, but that week I successfully transferred hundreds of packets for several days through the serial COM-port with NNCP, by running relatively easy setup PPP with link-local IPv6 addresses (no IP configuration was necessary) and multicast nodes discovery. Writing of sliding-window protocol with *efficient* guaranteed data delivery is not trivial task and it is easier to setup PPP+TCP (that are still available out of box in most BSD systems I believe), that will also work good with the modems, not only null-modem connection. -- Sergey Matveev (http://www.stargrave.org/) OpenPGP: CF60 E89A 5923 1E76 E263 6422 AE1A 8109 E498 57EF